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Снорри got a reaction from pentagonschik in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Recent updates. Im fighting for the Union (of fuselage, wings and jet nozzles), and rebellious steps, although standing bravely, are no match for 280 sandpaper and nailfiles and will be defeated soon. A lot of work still has to be done...
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Снорри got a reaction from Tali in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Recent updates. Im fighting for the Union (of fuselage, wings and jet nozzles), and rebellious steps, although standing bravely, are no match for 280 sandpaper and nailfiles and will be defeated soon. A lot of work still has to be done...
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Снорри got a reaction from Олексій Єременко in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Canopy is almost a disaster. I've tried polishing it, results are not encouraging. Well, I've rode of some scratches and fingerprints on outside surfaces, but there is a scratch inside and plastic is of very soft variety and not going transparent enough despite all my efforts. May be dipping in acrylic varnish would help?
Folded wings? I've said... no, written in plain Ru... no, English, that
And it will. So no canards, tail hook and folding wings, I have plenty of troubles already
Current state is on the photo, I attached nose cone and made new, more pointed tip of the tail one. Wings sanding is in process.
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Снорри got a reaction from palanbor in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Oh, spirit of scalemodels is alive and well But the same could be said about my Sukhoi. It finally has got the hen house aka cockpit. Not the best one, but now there is no yawning gap at the back and something looking more like a instrument panel at the front. Anyway, not a lot would be seen under the canopy even when it 'd be polished. Fuselage was glued together and now is drying and Im trying to do something with missiles.
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Снорри got a reaction from Олексій Єременко in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Ok, what we have for today? First - two photos of Su-33 before breaking up. Not the worse case, but paint job have some "peculiarities". Second - what is done for today. Upper part of fuselage have been stripped of paint, mostly by sanding, but in the area of gun "gills" by rubbing with cloth damped in isopropanol. All panel lines have been rescribed, the same is going to happen with the lower part. I've decided to use fuselage, tails, stabilizers, intakes and, of course, canopy of the Su-33, but still not sure what to do with the nose cone. It has thick and uneven coat of white paint, the best solution would be to throw it in the "Mole", but first I have to find the burrow it is hiding and second, to find out if its teeth could do anything with Zvezda Super. If not, Su-30 will come to help.
And thanks for commenting, its great to see some friendly persons here!
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Снорри got a reaction from Олексій Єременко in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Now we have fairly accurate and not expensive new Zvezda, so at least your troubles are over if only you get rid of Italeri's kit For perfectionists only solution for now is kitbashing of Hasegawa and Zvezda with major surgery to get fuselage cross-sections right. Or diminishing of requirements for accuracy.
Right now I'm making a decision what parts of Su-33 kit should be reused. On one hand, I'd like to use as many parts as possible, on another, I dont want to spent too much time repairing/prepairing them. Anyway, main tool dealing with this kit is sanding stick and paper. And scriber, of course.
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Снорри got a reaction from Олексій Єременко in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
I bought MAVI's Su-27K and have relaxed until Hasegawa's kit appeared. Now I have MAVI, Italeri, Hasegawa and new Zvezda and still not sure what I want from all this - Su-33 or J-15. Also I have very strong doubts on accuracy of all those kits, so work promised be terrific anyway. I was considering Attacker for the Wings of Misty Albion GB, but it's too many work ahead and now I need something simple and straightforward. So Attacker still in storage waiting for its time and - who knows? - may be that time will come in 2018.
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Снорри got a reaction from Олексій Єременко in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Latvian Nakotne made its kits of Su-27 family aircraft in the beginning of the 1990s and now they are universally considered as awfully inaccurate. Regardless of that some of them still produced by Russian Zvezda, gradually being replaced by newer kits of the same aircraft. Last year with the advent of new Su-33 Zvezda finally retired its old (but not the oldest) ex-Nakotne Su-33 never considered by serious modellers as something worth of money and efforts to build; last week this semi-completed kit was donated to me for rebuild - or, if take a look from the other point, to help build similar Nakotne's Su-30.
Well, this kit, inaccurate it is, still looks like Su, not MiG or F-16 and one of my acquaintances asked me for display model of any modern Sukhoi fighter, and I think this would pass. As Su-30 lacked the canopy and Su-33 is single seater and even with these wing-like bits not Su-33 at all, mating of them could produce only something able to pass for Su-27. So let it be Su-27. I still not sure about decals, as kit is not worth spending good ones on it and of bad kind I have only those for Su-33. Well, I'll deal with this later, but first would be complete disembowelment, rescribing and stripping off paint. Or, more likely, sanding it off, as I found convenient to use existing paint layer in scribing and search-n-destroy operations against sink marks (of which lots are present). I'll periodically post updates on this project intended to be finished before New Year (2018, not some New Year). Right now Im blue - yes, I'm a bit depressed and fighting with it in a Pictish warrior's style, covered with blue paint, results of kit's surfaces sanding. May be that "Mole" liquid is not the worse solution, but I can't help remembering where I put it...
Ok, work is going on, and now is time to explain why all this is written (and will be written) in English. As you probably know, GreenMats now has three official languages - Ukrainian, Russian and, yes, English. People have been posting there only in the first two and this should be corrected. So, why not use English (or whatever I dare to call that), get some practice not only in modelling but also in English writing and try to kill all the birds with one fighter aircraft? Any comments and encouragements are highly welcome, be they in any of forum's official languages - I understand (or not understand, as some people may say) all three. But I'll write there in English and hope it is slightly better than Nakotne's kit
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Снорри got a reaction from Occidental in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Not much. Here are some photos.
First is a glimpse of how it was - intakes, interior and airbrake. Airbrake was stiffened and then glued into place - see second photo. Also on that you can see a small plug near fuselage's tail cone. It was done to make easy assembling halves of fuselage - upper was shorter than lower, now they're equal. Third photo - main landing gear before and after the Mole and disassembling. I hope tomorrow I'm finishing assembling of the interior. By the way, what colour it is? Some shade of light blue, I suppose.
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Снорри got a reaction from foxbot in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Not much. Here are some photos.
First is a glimpse of how it was - intakes, interior and airbrake. Airbrake was stiffened and then glued into place - see second photo. Also on that you can see a small plug near fuselage's tail cone. It was done to make easy assembling halves of fuselage - upper was shorter than lower, now they're equal. Third photo - main landing gear before and after the Mole and disassembling. I hope tomorrow I'm finishing assembling of the interior. By the way, what colour it is? Some shade of light blue, I suppose.
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Снорри got a reaction from buratino in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Not much. Here are some photos.
First is a glimpse of how it was - intakes, interior and airbrake. Airbrake was stiffened and then glued into place - see second photo. Also on that you can see a small plug near fuselage's tail cone. It was done to make easy assembling halves of fuselage - upper was shorter than lower, now they're equal. Third photo - main landing gear before and after the Mole and disassembling. I hope tomorrow I'm finishing assembling of the interior. By the way, what colour it is? Some shade of light blue, I suppose.
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Снорри got a reaction from MARADER in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Not much. Here are some photos.
First is a glimpse of how it was - intakes, interior and airbrake. Airbrake was stiffened and then glued into place - see second photo. Also on that you can see a small plug near fuselage's tail cone. It was done to make easy assembling halves of fuselage - upper was shorter than lower, now they're equal. Third photo - main landing gear before and after the Mole and disassembling. I hope tomorrow I'm finishing assembling of the interior. By the way, what colour it is? Some shade of light blue, I suppose.
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Снорри got a reaction from palanbor in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Not much. Here are some photos.
First is a glimpse of how it was - intakes, interior and airbrake. Airbrake was stiffened and then glued into place - see second photo. Also on that you can see a small plug near fuselage's tail cone. It was done to make easy assembling halves of fuselage - upper was shorter than lower, now they're equal. Third photo - main landing gear before and after the Mole and disassembling. I hope tomorrow I'm finishing assembling of the interior. By the way, what colour it is? Some shade of light blue, I suppose.
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Снорри got a reaction from foxbot in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Ok, what we have for today? First - two photos of Su-33 before breaking up. Not the worse case, but paint job have some "peculiarities". Second - what is done for today. Upper part of fuselage have been stripped of paint, mostly by sanding, but in the area of gun "gills" by rubbing with cloth damped in isopropanol. All panel lines have been rescribed, the same is going to happen with the lower part. I've decided to use fuselage, tails, stabilizers, intakes and, of course, canopy of the Su-33, but still not sure what to do with the nose cone. It has thick and uneven coat of white paint, the best solution would be to throw it in the "Mole", but first I have to find the burrow it is hiding and second, to find out if its teeth could do anything with Zvezda Super. If not, Su-30 will come to help.
And thanks for commenting, its great to see some friendly persons here!
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Снорри got a reaction from Occidental in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Latvian Nakotne made its kits of Su-27 family aircraft in the beginning of the 1990s and now they are universally considered as awfully inaccurate. Regardless of that some of them still produced by Russian Zvezda, gradually being replaced by newer kits of the same aircraft. Last year with the advent of new Su-33 Zvezda finally retired its old (but not the oldest) ex-Nakotne Su-33 never considered by serious modellers as something worth of money and efforts to build; last week this semi-completed kit was donated to me for rebuild - or, if take a look from the other point, to help build similar Nakotne's Su-30.
Well, this kit, inaccurate it is, still looks like Su, not MiG or F-16 and one of my acquaintances asked me for display model of any modern Sukhoi fighter, and I think this would pass. As Su-30 lacked the canopy and Su-33 is single seater and even with these wing-like bits not Su-33 at all, mating of them could produce only something able to pass for Su-27. So let it be Su-27. I still not sure about decals, as kit is not worth spending good ones on it and of bad kind I have only those for Su-33. Well, I'll deal with this later, but first would be complete disembowelment, rescribing and stripping off paint. Or, more likely, sanding it off, as I found convenient to use existing paint layer in scribing and search-n-destroy operations against sink marks (of which lots are present). I'll periodically post updates on this project intended to be finished before New Year (2018, not some New Year). Right now Im blue - yes, I'm a bit depressed and fighting with it in a Pictish warrior's style, covered with blue paint, results of kit's surfaces sanding. May be that "Mole" liquid is not the worse solution, but I can't help remembering where I put it...
Ok, work is going on, and now is time to explain why all this is written (and will be written) in English. As you probably know, GreenMats now has three official languages - Ukrainian, Russian and, yes, English. People have been posting there only in the first two and this should be corrected. So, why not use English (or whatever I dare to call that), get some practice not only in modelling but also in English writing and try to kill all the birds with one fighter aircraft? Any comments and encouragements are highly welcome, be they in any of forum's official languages - I understand (or not understand, as some people may say) all three. But I'll write there in English and hope it is slightly better than Nakotne's kit
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Снорри got a reaction from pentagonschik in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
I bought MAVI's Su-27K and have relaxed until Hasegawa's kit appeared. Now I have MAVI, Italeri, Hasegawa and new Zvezda and still not sure what I want from all this - Su-33 or J-15. Also I have very strong doubts on accuracy of all those kits, so work promised be terrific anyway. I was considering Attacker for the Wings of Misty Albion GB, but it's too many work ahead and now I need something simple and straightforward. So Attacker still in storage waiting for its time and - who knows? - may be that time will come in 2018.
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Снорри got a reaction from pentagonschik in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Latvian Nakotne made its kits of Su-27 family aircraft in the beginning of the 1990s and now they are universally considered as awfully inaccurate. Regardless of that some of them still produced by Russian Zvezda, gradually being replaced by newer kits of the same aircraft. Last year with the advent of new Su-33 Zvezda finally retired its old (but not the oldest) ex-Nakotne Su-33 never considered by serious modellers as something worth of money and efforts to build; last week this semi-completed kit was donated to me for rebuild - or, if take a look from the other point, to help build similar Nakotne's Su-30.
Well, this kit, inaccurate it is, still looks like Su, not MiG or F-16 and one of my acquaintances asked me for display model of any modern Sukhoi fighter, and I think this would pass. As Su-30 lacked the canopy and Su-33 is single seater and even with these wing-like bits not Su-33 at all, mating of them could produce only something able to pass for Su-27. So let it be Su-27. I still not sure about decals, as kit is not worth spending good ones on it and of bad kind I have only those for Su-33. Well, I'll deal with this later, but first would be complete disembowelment, rescribing and stripping off paint. Or, more likely, sanding it off, as I found convenient to use existing paint layer in scribing and search-n-destroy operations against sink marks (of which lots are present). I'll periodically post updates on this project intended to be finished before New Year (2018, not some New Year). Right now Im blue - yes, I'm a bit depressed and fighting with it in a Pictish warrior's style, covered with blue paint, results of kit's surfaces sanding. May be that "Mole" liquid is not the worse solution, but I can't help remembering where I put it...
Ok, work is going on, and now is time to explain why all this is written (and will be written) in English. As you probably know, GreenMats now has three official languages - Ukrainian, Russian and, yes, English. People have been posting there only in the first two and this should be corrected. So, why not use English (or whatever I dare to call that), get some practice not only in modelling but also in English writing and try to kill all the birds with one fighter aircraft? Any comments and encouragements are highly welcome, be they in any of forum's official languages - I understand (or not understand, as some people may say) all three. But I'll write there in English and hope it is slightly better than Nakotne's kit
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Снорри got a reaction from foxbot in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Latvian Nakotne made its kits of Su-27 family aircraft in the beginning of the 1990s and now they are universally considered as awfully inaccurate. Regardless of that some of them still produced by Russian Zvezda, gradually being replaced by newer kits of the same aircraft. Last year with the advent of new Su-33 Zvezda finally retired its old (but not the oldest) ex-Nakotne Su-33 never considered by serious modellers as something worth of money and efforts to build; last week this semi-completed kit was donated to me for rebuild - or, if take a look from the other point, to help build similar Nakotne's Su-30.
Well, this kit, inaccurate it is, still looks like Su, not MiG or F-16 and one of my acquaintances asked me for display model of any modern Sukhoi fighter, and I think this would pass. As Su-30 lacked the canopy and Su-33 is single seater and even with these wing-like bits not Su-33 at all, mating of them could produce only something able to pass for Su-27. So let it be Su-27. I still not sure about decals, as kit is not worth spending good ones on it and of bad kind I have only those for Su-33. Well, I'll deal with this later, but first would be complete disembowelment, rescribing and stripping off paint. Or, more likely, sanding it off, as I found convenient to use existing paint layer in scribing and search-n-destroy operations against sink marks (of which lots are present). I'll periodically post updates on this project intended to be finished before New Year (2018, not some New Year). Right now Im blue - yes, I'm a bit depressed and fighting with it in a Pictish warrior's style, covered with blue paint, results of kit's surfaces sanding. May be that "Mole" liquid is not the worse solution, but I can't help remembering where I put it...
Ok, work is going on, and now is time to explain why all this is written (and will be written) in English. As you probably know, GreenMats now has three official languages - Ukrainian, Russian and, yes, English. People have been posting there only in the first two and this should be corrected. So, why not use English (or whatever I dare to call that), get some practice not only in modelling but also in English writing and try to kill all the birds with one fighter aircraft? Any comments and encouragements are highly welcome, be they in any of forum's official languages - I understand (or not understand, as some people may say) all three. But I'll write there in English and hope it is slightly better than Nakotne's kit
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Снорри got a reaction from MARADER in Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
Latvian Nakotne made its kits of Su-27 family aircraft in the beginning of the 1990s and now they are universally considered as awfully inaccurate. Regardless of that some of them still produced by Russian Zvezda, gradually being replaced by newer kits of the same aircraft. Last year with the advent of new Su-33 Zvezda finally retired its old (but not the oldest) ex-Nakotne Su-33 never considered by serious modellers as something worth of money and efforts to build; last week this semi-completed kit was donated to me for rebuild - or, if take a look from the other point, to help build similar Nakotne's Su-30.
Well, this kit, inaccurate it is, still looks like Su, not MiG or F-16 and one of my acquaintances asked me for display model of any modern Sukhoi fighter, and I think this would pass. As Su-30 lacked the canopy and Su-33 is single seater and even with these wing-like bits not Su-33 at all, mating of them could produce only something able to pass for Su-27. So let it be Su-27. I still not sure about decals, as kit is not worth spending good ones on it and of bad kind I have only those for Su-33. Well, I'll deal with this later, but first would be complete disembowelment, rescribing and stripping off paint. Or, more likely, sanding it off, as I found convenient to use existing paint layer in scribing and search-n-destroy operations against sink marks (of which lots are present). I'll periodically post updates on this project intended to be finished before New Year (2018, not some New Year). Right now Im blue - yes, I'm a bit depressed and fighting with it in a Pictish warrior's style, covered with blue paint, results of kit's surfaces sanding. May be that "Mole" liquid is not the worse solution, but I can't help remembering where I put it...
Ok, work is going on, and now is time to explain why all this is written (and will be written) in English. As you probably know, GreenMats now has three official languages - Ukrainian, Russian and, yes, English. People have been posting there only in the first two and this should be corrected. So, why not use English (or whatever I dare to call that), get some practice not only in modelling but also in English writing and try to kill all the birds with one fighter aircraft? Any comments and encouragements are highly welcome, be they in any of forum's official languages - I understand (or not understand, as some people may say) all three. But I'll write there in English and hope it is slightly better than Nakotne's kit
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Снорри got a reaction from palanbor in Обзор Декаль "Lo Vis DEVIL DOG Scooters" (Furball aero-design 1/72)
Первым из найденных мной вариантов оказался BuNo 16024 из VMA-131, изобильные фотки оного в указанный в деке период тут: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/a4m/A-4M_160024.htm
Что мы видим в первые пять минут? Буква Q в хвостовом коде не та, хвостик в деке посередине буквы, на самолете - с краю, линии букв слишком тонкие. MARINES - M и N узковаты. 0024 - четверка с меньшей дыркой. Брюлики другой формы и недотягивают до краев полосы, в названии эскадрильи буквы А шире, чем нужно, на ушах звезды все полоски должны быть одинаковой ширины, а в деке -разные. О чем тут говорить? О том, что каждый, раздобывший шрифт Лонг бич и его аналоги, считает себя знатным декалерисовальщиком? Ну-ну...
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Снорри got a reaction from foxbot in Обзор Декаль "Lo Vis DEVIL DOG Scooters" (Furball aero-design 1/72)
Первым из найденных мной вариантов оказался BuNo 16024 из VMA-131, изобильные фотки оного в указанный в деке период тут: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/a4m/A-4M_160024.htm
Что мы видим в первые пять минут? Буква Q в хвостовом коде не та, хвостик в деке посередине буквы, на самолете - с краю, линии букв слишком тонкие. MARINES - M и N узковаты. 0024 - четверка с меньшей дыркой. Брюлики другой формы и недотягивают до краев полосы, в названии эскадрильи буквы А шире, чем нужно, на ушах звезды все полоски должны быть одинаковой ширины, а в деке -разные. О чем тут говорить? О том, что каждый, раздобывший шрифт Лонг бич и его аналоги, считает себя знатным декалерисовальщиком? Ну-ну...
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Снорри got a reaction from Tali in Обзор Декаль "Lo Vis DEVIL DOG Scooters" (Furball aero-design 1/72)
Первым из найденных мной вариантов оказался BuNo 16024 из VMA-131, изобильные фотки оного в указанный в деке период тут: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/a4m/A-4M_160024.htm
Что мы видим в первые пять минут? Буква Q в хвостовом коде не та, хвостик в деке посередине буквы, на самолете - с краю, линии букв слишком тонкие. MARINES - M и N узковаты. 0024 - четверка с меньшей дыркой. Брюлики другой формы и недотягивают до краев полосы, в названии эскадрильи буквы А шире, чем нужно, на ушах звезды все полоски должны быть одинаковой ширины, а в деке -разные. О чем тут говорить? О том, что каждый, раздобывший шрифт Лонг бич и его аналоги, считает себя знатным декалерисовальщиком? Ну-ну...
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Снорри got a reaction from Сергій Фляшко in AD-5W 1/72
Да что фонарь?! Я вот не могу понять, почему фюзель короткий и толстый? Приложил к фоткам - вообще ни в дугу. Это как? Или фотки литников такие жуткие?
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Снорри got a reaction from Tali in RAQ-25 Stingray - будущий беспилотный палубный заправщик США
Да что тут обсуждать-то? Все ж ясно как день...
1. Есть концепция беспилотного ударного самолета.
2. Под нее удалось вбить деньги и даже построить опытные самолеты.
3. К использованию беспилотных штурмовиков флот не готов. Причин много, в основном все упирается в боевое применение. Просто таскать бомбы и их сбрасывать мало, надо уметь это делать в боевых условиях с противодействием сильного противника, обладающего развитой ПВО и авиацией. С этим у дронов полный провал, как я понимаю, и решения нет. Держать на корабле что-то типа предатора в целом бессмыслено и здорово напоминает идею палубного U-2: реально, но не нужно.
4. Перспектив решить вопрос с боевым применением в ближайшее время нет. Это грозит свертыванием всего направления несмотря на очевидные достижения вроде полетов с палубы.
5. ЧТО ДЕЛАТЬ?
Ну так вот вам и начинается флотская самодеятельность с "Яблочком". Ну то есть со "Скатом". Цель - изобразить, что беспилотник нужен в любом случае и бабло на него надо дать уже сейчас, то есть в 2017 году. Значит, доказывем нужность и находим применение. Заправщик - самое то: садиться-взлетать умеем, отсек внутри есть, узлы снаружи под агрегат сделать несложно, профиль миссии проще некуда. Дальше песня про то, что он и как разведчик иногда пригодится, чтоб хорнет не гонять, и бомбу иногда скинуть может, и даже груз какой перевезти... Даже вот название дали, хотя, как верно указали ихние туземные комментаторы, название дают машине, а не программе. Но это такой ход: типа, назвали машиной, верим, что она нужна и она будет в металле и композите. Ну, посотрим, для серийного беспилотника у меня место заготовлено...
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Снорри got a reaction from palanbor in RAQ-25 Stingray - будущий беспилотный палубный заправщик США
Да что тут обсуждать-то? Все ж ясно как день...
1. Есть концепция беспилотного ударного самолета.
2. Под нее удалось вбить деньги и даже построить опытные самолеты.
3. К использованию беспилотных штурмовиков флот не готов. Причин много, в основном все упирается в боевое применение. Просто таскать бомбы и их сбрасывать мало, надо уметь это делать в боевых условиях с противодействием сильного противника, обладающего развитой ПВО и авиацией. С этим у дронов полный провал, как я понимаю, и решения нет. Держать на корабле что-то типа предатора в целом бессмыслено и здорово напоминает идею палубного U-2: реально, но не нужно.
4. Перспектив решить вопрос с боевым применением в ближайшее время нет. Это грозит свертыванием всего направления несмотря на очевидные достижения вроде полетов с палубы.
5. ЧТО ДЕЛАТЬ?
Ну так вот вам и начинается флотская самодеятельность с "Яблочком". Ну то есть со "Скатом". Цель - изобразить, что беспилотник нужен в любом случае и бабло на него надо дать уже сейчас, то есть в 2017 году. Значит, доказывем нужность и находим применение. Заправщик - самое то: садиться-взлетать умеем, отсек внутри есть, узлы снаружи под агрегат сделать несложно, профиль миссии проще некуда. Дальше песня про то, что он и как разведчик иногда пригодится, чтоб хорнет не гонять, и бомбу иногда скинуть может, и даже груз какой перевезти... Даже вот название дали, хотя, как верно указали ихние туземные комментаторы, название дают машине, а не программе. Но это такой ход: типа, назвали машиной, верим, что она нужна и она будет в металле и композите. Ну, посотрим, для серийного беспилотника у меня место заготовлено...