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May be this cause is a noble one, but I dont feel like to use another canopy on that. And bwana Novokits had offered me canopy from his Su-35 and I refused too. Thank you both, but this kit will have the canopy with which it was born and which it deserves. And by now I can see something through it, so it is declared transparent and will be more so with Glanzer or Future.
I used plain cloth, and yes, tamiya polishing pastes and GOI cant do much here.
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Im working with this exactly because there is no other, Im enjoying the process and still think that it is possible to get a passable result
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May be I should try polishing with some smooth synthetic fabric? Previously I was dealing with Zvezda's canopy for FW-190 and everything went fine...
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Canopy is almost a disaster. I've tried polishing it, results are not encouraging. Well, I've rode of some scratches and fingerprints on outside surfaces, but there is a scratch inside and plastic is of very soft variety and not going transparent enough despite all my efforts. May be dipping in acrylic varnish would help?
Folded wings? I've said... no, written in plain Ru... no, English, that
On 10/23/2017 at 9:50 PM, Снорри said:So let it be Su-27
And it will. So no canards, tail hook and folding wings, I have plenty of troubles already
Current state is on the photo, I attached nose cone and made new, more pointed tip of the tail one. Wings sanding is in process.
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There is no beauty to see through the canopy but yes, it definitely would be polished. I cant do anything with the yellowish tint but it would shine. Like a fancy diamond
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Oh, spirit of scalemodels is alive and well But the same could be said about my Sukhoi. It finally has got the hen house aka cockpit. Not the best one, but now there is no yawning gap at the back and something looking more like a instrument panel at the front. Anyway, not a lot would be seen under the canopy even when it 'd be polished. Fuselage was glued together and now is drying and Im trying to do something with missiles.
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Not much. Here are some photos.
First is a glimpse of how it was - intakes, interior and airbrake. Airbrake was stiffened and then glued into place - see second photo. Also on that you can see a small plug near fuselage's tail cone. It was done to make easy assembling halves of fuselage - upper was shorter than lower, now they're equal. Third photo - main landing gear before and after the Mole and disassembling. I hope tomorrow I'm finishing assembling of the interior. By the way, what colour it is? Some shade of light blue, I suppose.
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9 minutes ago, Novo said:
Any pics of process?
There is nothing remarkable to show yet.
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9 hours ago, hellcat79 said:
Кстати Ростовский "бегемот" неплохие декали на данный аппарат делал (могу поделиться если сильно надо).
Thanks, but I have Behemoth's and Zvezda decals for Su-33 and all of them have same problem. Colour shift. Most decal producers refuse to get the simple fact that Russian side numbers with thin white outline are almost impossible to print as a single element. Slightest colour shift is clearly visible on those, and I plan to use them on this kit if somethin better could not be found.
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On 10/24/2017 at 2:12 PM, Novo said:
Это ты не слышал как он говорит, даже индусы на фоне этого кажутся англичанами.
Its such a pity we have so little chance to listen to your perfect Oxbridge pronunciation. I.e. no chance at all
17 hours ago, Novo said:Maybe yet u get Su-35 from me and you'll build this kit like Su-33 airframe? Plus, I have lot a spare parts, canopy, legs etc
Oh. that was that chance
5 hours ago, Novo said:Бвана делает из "Су-33" Су-27?
Oh yes, he've got it! Seems, my caveman English is understandable in the end [of the day] Making of the Su-27 is the first reason why I dont want to add your Nakotne to my two. Second is that kit is very crude, lot of sanding (including 150 paper (or it is fabric already, judging by the base), and assembling of used or new one makes no difference.
11 hours ago, Genry said:Шота консоли крыла у него перехорджены (хорда больше, чем надо), не находите, други?
No, wing chord of Nakotne's kit is several millimetres SHORTER, than of Su-33 kits. Of Su-27s I cant say much, but I cant rid of the feeling that wings are too narrow. May be I watched too many carrier planes
6 hours ago, palanbor said:А новая Звезда чем плоха (за исключением моральных аспектов) ?
Zvezda's canopy is no match for Hasegawa's. Some cross sections of Zvezda's kit fuselage are wrong (but although Hasegawa got them right, it made wrong those good in Zvezda's). Japanese kit done better, with fine surface details, so if somebody wants Su-33 out of the box the Hasegawa is preferred choice.
5 hours ago, Fokkerd21 said:P. S. Хочя я і недоганяю, навіщо вовтузитися зі старючим і кривим Накотне.
I just feel no mercy on it. It have to be done and it will be done! A-a-a-argh!!
Today I was dealing with wing and intakes, and nose cone with interior parts are still soaking in the "Mole". It works, but slowly. Really, no idea what to do with the cockpit and instrument panel, and sight, and seat. Something have to be made with them but I dont feel like it. Any suggestions?
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Ok, what we have for today? First - two photos of Su-33 before breaking up. Not the worse case, but paint job have some "peculiarities". Second - what is done for today. Upper part of fuselage have been stripped of paint, mostly by sanding, but in the area of gun "gills" by rubbing with cloth damped in isopropanol. All panel lines have been rescribed, the same is going to happen with the lower part. I've decided to use fuselage, tails, stabilizers, intakes and, of course, canopy of the Su-33, but still not sure what to do with the nose cone. It has thick and uneven coat of white paint, the best solution would be to throw it in the "Mole", but first I have to find the burrow it is hiding and second, to find out if its teeth could do anything with Zvezda Super. If not, Su-30 will come to help.
And thanks for commenting, its great to see some friendly persons here!
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Now we have fairly accurate and not expensive new Zvezda, so at least your troubles are over if only you get rid of Italeri's kit For perfectionists only solution for now is kitbashing of Hasegawa and Zvezda with major surgery to get fuselage cross-sections right. Or diminishing of requirements for accuracy.
Right now I'm making a decision what parts of Su-33 kit should be reused. On one hand, I'd like to use as many parts as possible, on another, I dont want to spent too much time repairing/prepairing them. Anyway, main tool dealing with this kit is sanding stick and paper. And scriber, of course.
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I bought MAVI's Su-27K and have relaxed until Hasegawa's kit appeared. Now I have MAVI, Italeri, Hasegawa and new Zvezda and still not sure what I want from all this - Su-33 or J-15. Also I have very strong doubts on accuracy of all those kits, so work promised be terrific anyway. I was considering Attacker for the Wings of Misty Albion GB, but it's too many work ahead and now I need something simple and straightforward. So Attacker still in storage waiting for its time and - who knows? - may be that time will come in 2018.
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Latvian Nakotne made its kits of Su-27 family aircraft in the beginning of the 1990s and now they are universally considered as awfully inaccurate. Regardless of that some of them still produced by Russian Zvezda, gradually being replaced by newer kits of the same aircraft. Last year with the advent of new Su-33 Zvezda finally retired its old (but not the oldest) ex-Nakotne Su-33 never considered by serious modellers as something worth of money and efforts to build; last week this semi-completed kit was donated to me for rebuild - or, if take a look from the other point, to help build similar Nakotne's Su-30.
Well, this kit, inaccurate it is, still looks like Su, not MiG or F-16 and one of my acquaintances asked me for display model of any modern Sukhoi fighter, and I think this would pass. As Su-30 lacked the canopy and Su-33 is single seater and even with these wing-like bits not Su-33 at all, mating of them could produce only something able to pass for Su-27. So let it be Su-27. I still not sure about decals, as kit is not worth spending good ones on it and of bad kind I have only those for Su-33. Well, I'll deal with this later, but first would be complete disembowelment, rescribing and stripping off paint. Or, more likely, sanding it off, as I found convenient to use existing paint layer in scribing and search-n-destroy operations against sink marks (of which lots are present). I'll periodically post updates on this project intended to be finished before New Year (2018, not some New Year). Right now Im blue - yes, I'm a bit depressed and fighting with it in a Pictish warrior's style, covered with blue paint, results of kit's surfaces sanding. May be that "Mole" liquid is not the worse solution, but I can't help remembering where I put it...
Ok, work is going on, and now is time to explain why all this is written (and will be written) in English. As you probably know, GreenMats now has three official languages - Ukrainian, Russian and, yes, English. People have been posting there only in the first two and this should be corrected. So, why not use English (or whatever I dare to call that), get some practice not only in modelling but also in English writing and try to kill all the birds with one fighter aircraft? Any comments and encouragements are highly welcome, be they in any of forum's official languages - I understand (or not understand, as some people may say) all three. But I'll write there in English and hope it is slightly better than Nakotne's kit
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Попробовал в сети найти фото конкретных прототипов - не нашел ни одного. Мабуть плохо искал...
Первым из найденных мной вариантов оказался BuNo 16024 из VMA-131, изобильные фотки оного в указанный в деке период тут: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/a4m/A-4M_160024.htm
Что мы видим в первые пять минут? Буква Q в хвостовом коде не та, хвостик в деке посередине буквы, на самолете - с краю, линии букв слишком тонкие. MARINES - M и N узковаты. 0024 - четверка с меньшей дыркой. Брюлики другой формы и недотягивают до краев полосы, в названии эскадрильи буквы А шире, чем нужно, на ушах звезды все полоски должны быть одинаковой ширины, а в деке -разные. О чем тут говорить? О том, что каждый, раздобывший шрифт Лонг бич и его аналоги, считает себя знатным декалерисовальщиком? Ну-ну...
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Там не просто кажется, там даже если "искажения" по высоте убрать, все равно криво получается, излом фюзеля снизу за крылом у модели больше, чем надо. Расшивка - это отдельная песТня...
А, да, за вот это:
Сей папелац является палубным вариантом скайрайдера,
отдельное спасибо. Палубный вариант "Скайрейдера"... Не палубный вариант в студию!!! Это к вопросу знакомства разработчиков с прототипом, должно быть.
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Да что фонарь?! Я вот не могу понять, почему фюзель короткий и толстый? Приложил к фоткам - вообще ни в дугу. Это как? Или фотки литников такие жуткие?
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штурмовика хватит не на десяток и не на два вылетов, он более гибок в выполнении ударной мисии, кроме того, он может делать и другое - и разведку, и ту же дозаправку. Оно самолеты проектируют не из-за того, что они дешевле крылатых ракет.
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Я ж говорю: идея в продвижении НОВОГО аппарата под соусом танкера. Принципиальная разница между ним и 18К в том, что танкер-хорнет это тупик, а танкер-дрон - шаг к беспилотному штурмовику.
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18 minutes ago, palanbor said:
чем, в таком случае, он (как танкер) отличается от F/A-18 ? Внутренних грузовых объемов под керосин нет ни у того, ни у другого.
Да щас! Их там полно, любой танкер основную массу топлива несет в штатных топливных баках, плюс подвеска. кстати, KA-6D имел возможность применения бомб, другое дело, что бортовое оборудование у него было урезанное.
Причина эксплуатации интрудеров с двумя агрегатами, как говорят, для надежности, сам агрегат весит немного
Дрон, по своим летным характеристикам, вероятно, подойдет и как патрулирующий, и как сопровождающий танкер, в отличие от того же викинга
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Да что тут обсуждать-то? Все ж ясно как день...
1. Есть концепция беспилотного ударного самолета.
2. Под нее удалось вбить деньги и даже построить опытные самолеты.
3. К использованию беспилотных штурмовиков флот не готов. Причин много, в основном все упирается в боевое применение. Просто таскать бомбы и их сбрасывать мало, надо уметь это делать в боевых условиях с противодействием сильного противника, обладающего развитой ПВО и авиацией. С этим у дронов полный провал, как я понимаю, и решения нет. Держать на корабле что-то типа предатора в целом бессмыслено и здорово напоминает идею палубного U-2: реально, но не нужно.
4. Перспектив решить вопрос с боевым применением в ближайшее время нет. Это грозит свертыванием всего направления несмотря на очевидные достижения вроде полетов с палубы.
5. ЧТО ДЕЛАТЬ?
Ну так вот вам и начинается флотская самодеятельность с "Яблочком". Ну то есть со "Скатом". Цель - изобразить, что беспилотник нужен в любом случае и бабло на него надо дать уже сейчас, то есть в 2017 году. Значит, доказывем нужность и находим применение. Заправщик - самое то: садиться-взлетать умеем, отсек внутри есть, узлы снаружи под агрегат сделать несложно, профиль миссии проще некуда. Дальше песня про то, что он и как разведчик иногда пригодится, чтоб хорнет не гонять, и бомбу иногда скинуть может, и даже груз какой перевезти... Даже вот название дали, хотя, как верно указали ихние туземные комментаторы, название дают машине, а не программе. Но это такой ход: типа, назвали машиной, верим, что она нужна и она будет в металле и композите. Ну, посотрим, для серийного беспилотника у меня место заготовлено...
Zvezda/Nakothe 1/72 Su-33 to Su-27 - Moving backwards
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Recent updates. Im fighting for the Union (of fuselage, wings and jet nozzles), and rebellious steps, although standing bravely, are no match for 280 sandpaper and nailfiles and will be defeated soon. A lot of work still has to be done...